Comments on: Taken http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html Non-profit IT is technical social work Sun, 14 Mar 2010 02:15:30 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Tony Heywood http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html/comment-page-1#comment-115 Tony Heywood Fri, 11 Jul 2008 14:47:00 +0000 http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html#comment-115 Hi <br/><br/>Thats a really interesting post.I use skype at home via desktop PC with a mike and a webcam. Its great for keeping in touch with the in law.<br/><br/>We use interoute at work as our <br/><a HREF="http://www.interoute.com/product_groups/voice/one" REL="nofollow" rel="nofollow">voip solution</a>.<br/><br/>Will look to make get skype added to my mobile phone Hi

Thats a really interesting post.I use skype at home via desktop PC with a mike and a webcam. Its great for keeping in touch with the in law.

We use interoute at work as our
voip solution.

Will look to make get skype added to my mobile phone

]]> By: Larry Keyes http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html/comment-page-1#comment-83 Larry Keyes Wed, 10 Jan 2007 23:44:00 +0000 http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html#comment-83 I've been having good luck with VoicePulse. They have a couple of different plans, including one that integrates well with Asterisk / Trixbox. I’ve been having good luck with VoicePulse. They have a couple of different plans, including one that integrates well with Asterisk / Trixbox.

]]> By: abenamer http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html/comment-page-1#comment-82 abenamer Wed, 10 Jan 2007 22:24:00 +0000 http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html#comment-82 Hey I got taken in by Norvergence too. Those terms were just too good but my boss at the time saved both my hide and his by refusing to sign the contract. He hated long-term contracts and that genereal principle applied to Norvergence. So I WAS taken but cooler heads prevailed... It's a lesson I've adopted for many of my telecom contracts. Hey I got taken in by Norvergence too. Those terms were just too good but my boss at the time saved both my hide and his by refusing to sign the contract. He hated long-term contracts and that genereal principle applied to Norvergence. So I WAS taken but cooler heads prevailed… It’s a lesson I’ve adopted for many of my telecom contracts.

]]> By: thomas http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html/comment-page-1#comment-81 thomas Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:43:00 +0000 http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html#comment-81 I definitely got taken by <a href="http://fightthescam.com/" rel="nofollow">Norvergence</a>, a telecom company that took in thousands of small businesses. They brought in a T1 and ran your outbound voice and data over that; your inbound continued to be on POTS lines. It was kind of a goofy set-up, but the savings seemed worth it, and I felt like I did my due diligence - calling references, some Internet searches, etc. Then a few months after I left that employer, I got a panicked call from my previous employer saying that Norvergence had suddenly entered Chapter 9, they had no phone or Internet service (except the remaining POTS lines, thank goodness, and what should they do?<br /><br />I felt terrible for them, and tried to counsel them as best I could - they were able to get DSL fairly quickly and upgrade their POTS service, but I still don't know how they fared with the equipment lease - the crux of the Norvergence scam. They leased these "Matrix" boxes for outrageous sums over the life of the lease, when it was really a $500 router. Though I questioned the lease cost as a percentage of the total recurring charges, the total of the recurring charges was low enough that we decided to go with it, on my strong recommendation. I definitely got taken by Norvergence, a telecom company that took in thousands of small businesses. They brought in a T1 and ran your outbound voice and data over that; your inbound continued to be on POTS lines. It was kind of a goofy set-up, but the savings seemed worth it, and I felt like I did my due diligence – calling references, some Internet searches, etc. Then a few months after I left that employer, I got a panicked call from my previous employer saying that Norvergence had suddenly entered Chapter 9, they had no phone or Internet service (except the remaining POTS lines, thank goodness, and what should they do?

I felt terrible for them, and tried to counsel them as best I could – they were able to get DSL fairly quickly and upgrade their POTS service, but I still don’t know how they fared with the equipment lease – the crux of the Norvergence scam. They leased these “Matrix” boxes for outrageous sums over the life of the lease, when it was really a $500 router. Though I questioned the lease cost as a percentage of the total recurring charges, the total of the recurring charges was low enough that we decided to go with it, on my strong recommendation.

]]> By: abenamer http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html/comment-page-1#comment-79 abenamer Wed, 10 Jan 2007 18:01:00 +0000 http://www.todayicried.com/it/2007/01/taken.html#comment-79 Sorry, I think you were taken on this one. I'm in the middle of checking out VOIP vendors myself and the four I've checked with: Inter-Tel, Fonality and two Avaya vendors were adamant in telling me that VOIP over public Internet isn't that great. They mostly pointed out that it's slightly worse than cellphone. In fact, they're specifying point-to-point T1 if you want clean TDM-like connectivity. It does make sense doesn't it? ADSL and cable isn't exactly well-known for clean latency-free connections and that's what you need for VOIP. Use the Force. Learn to trust your instincts. Sorry, I think you were taken on this one. I’m in the middle of checking out VOIP vendors myself and the four I’ve checked with: Inter-Tel, Fonality and two Avaya vendors were adamant in telling me that VOIP over public Internet isn’t that great. They mostly pointed out that it’s slightly worse than cellphone. In fact, they’re specifying point-to-point T1 if you want clean TDM-like connectivity. It does make sense doesn’t it? ADSL and cable isn’t exactly well-known for clean latency-free connections and that’s what you need for VOIP. Use the Force. Learn to trust your instincts.

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